The No Fly Zone with Greg Maybury
Interview with Harrison Koehli, Editor, Red Pill Press, 15 April, 2023
The No Fly Zone with Greg Maybury
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On this broadcast, I speak with Harrison Koehli of Red Pill Press, focusing on the work of the late Andrew Lobaczewski, and the nature and reality of political evil as it manifests itself today. Listeners can connect with Harrison here on Twitter or on Youtube:
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On this episode we touch on a topic that, perhaps outside of the walls of our preferred venues of worship, does not receive the attention it merits: and that is evil. For the purposes of this discussion, we’re going to consider only the temporal (or earthly) variety, rather than the more spiritual (or unearthly) kind. (The latter perspective on evil is a whole other ball game as our American friends would say, and a discussion for another time.)
When we think of the more worldly evil, most of us might immediately think of the serial killer/mass murderer kind of evil (Jim Jones, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer et. al.) Again, today our focus is not on this type of evil either, but on the more political (macro-social) manifestations therein. To the extent we ponder evil manifesting itself within and across the body politic (ie. on a more macro-level), we might think of the Nazis (personified by Hitler) or the Communists/Bolsheviks (personified by Lenin, Trotsky, Stalin, Mao et. al.)
Yet the Nazis and the Communists and their ilk did not corner the market, not by a long shot from the grassy knoll as I like to say. And indeed, many of us are of the view that both these ideologies—whose similarities far outweigh their differences, notwithstanding the delusions their respective fan bases might have us subscribe to—are still going strong, albeit under different guises, but most def not with completely different aims and goals.
And our discussion is in particular how that evil manifests itself politically in our lives today under regimes which are purportedly democratic, egalitarian, and free—nominally the very antithesis of the aforesaid ideologies—that we focus on for the most part. It’s the creeping evil of enslavement, tyranny, misanthropy, genocide, despotism, and subjugation that is coming at us all via organisations like the World Economic Forum, the Bank of International Settlements, the United Nations and numerous others. Their insidious individual and collective agendas—and the practical means by which to realise the goals embedded in them—far exceed anything that might’ve been envisioned by even the most diabolical of despots past.
What infuses this impending evil even greater portent for humanity is the very real prospect that once the foundations of their “Grand Design” are set in place (said “design” so eloquently and presciently articulated by Douglas Reed in his monumental tome Controversy of Zion; completed in 1956, published in 1978) , the technocracy designed to sustain it will be all encompassing and all but unassailable. With those very “foundations” being laid under our very noses as I write—and in an ever more transparent manner—this makes the WEF’s so-called “Great Reset” (the “Grand Design” anyone?) far more frightening than anything humanity has ever before confronted.
Our guest today then to discuss such weighty matters is Harrison Koehli (pron. Kay-LEE), who is a senior editor for Red Pill Press, which bills itself as a “A Small Publisher of Big Ideas”. He co-hosts the MindMatters podcast, is also the editor of the latest edition of Andrew Lobaczewski's (pron. Lowba-CHEVSKI) Political Ponerology: The Science of Evil, Psychopathy, and the Origins of Totalitarianism.
An expert on psychopathy, Lobaczewski christened his field of study “ponerology”—a synthesis of psychological, psychiatric, sociological, and historical studies on the nature and genesis of evil. Derived from ‘poneros’ in New Testament Greek, the word suggests an inborn evil with a corrupting influence, a fitting description of psychopathy and its social effects. Harrison writes/edits the Substack Political Ponerology, which I highly recommend readers subscribe to.
A Definition of Pathocracy
Pathocracy (n). A system, or regime, of government (governance) created by a small (psycho) pathological minority that takes control over a society of ‘normal’ people.
If that sounds like what has been unfolding—most evidently in the past three years—then we’re most def onto something. (NB.: “Pathocracy” is a word coined by Lobaczewski to encapsulate the manifestation of political evil in a society.)
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‘[S]ocial justice ideology, with roots in “gender theory,” “critical race theory,” and the ever-growing list of academically questionable “studies” departments, is a Trojan horse. On the surface level it promotes “diversity, equity, and inclusion” but enforces strict ideological conformity, inequality, and exclusion of those who disagree. If you have the temerity to dissent, you will be found guilty of “discrimination” (i.e., thoughtcrime) and of endangering the “safety” (i.e., hurting the feelings) of “historically marginalized groups” (regardless of what individuals from those groups might actually think). You will have proven yourself not diverse enough to be included, all in the name of equality. Its logic is Kafkaesque and its morality is Orwellian.’ — Harrison Koehli, from the Editor’s Introduction to the new edition of Political Ponerology: The Science of Evil, Psychopathy, and the Origins of Totalitarianism.
How to recognise if we’re living the ‘pathocratic’ dream. (Adapted.)
Characteristics of a Pathocracy (Tick the Boxes for the Zeitgeist)
1. suppression of individualism, critical thinking, and creativity;
2. impoverishment of artistic values;
3. impoverishment of moral values; a social structure based on self-interest and one-upmanship, rather than altruism, benevolence, humanitarianism, or true philanthropy;
4. fanatical ideology; often a corrupted form of a valid viable ‘trojan’ ideology which is perverted into a pathological form, bearing little resemblance to the original;
5. intolerance and suspicion of anyone who is different, or who disagrees with the state;
6. centralized control;
7. widespread, deep seated corruption, with ever increasing lack of accountability for wrongdoing by government and corporate officials;
8. secret activities within government and business, surveillance of the population, coupled with lack of transparency, and respect for privacy of the individual citizen;
9. paranoid and reactionary governments, and same for the bodies which are supposed to enforce the rules for all without fear or favour;
10. excessive, arbitrary, unfair and inflexible legislation; the power of decision making is reduced/removed from the citizens’ everyday lives;
11. hypocrisy and contempt demonstrated by the actions of the ruling class, towards the ideals they claim to follow, and towards the citizens they claim to represent;
12. controlled media, dominated by blatant propaganda and rigid censorship;
13. extreme and ever increasing inequality of wealth and income between the richest and poorest;
14. endemic use of corrupted psychological reasoning such as paramoralisms, conversive thinking (groupthink), ‘doubletalk’, psycho-babble;
15. rule by force and/or fear of force or coercion, and increased corruption and corrosion of the democratic process;
16. people are considered as a ‘resource’ to be exploited rather than as individuals with intrinsic human worth;
17. spiritual life limited to inflexible and indoctrinare schemes, with those attempting to break the rules considered heretics or insane, and therefore dangerous;
18. arbitrary or manufactured divisions in the population (class, ethnicity, creed, gender) are inflamed into conflict with one another;
19. suppression of free speech – public debate, demonstration, protest;
20. violation of basic human rights eg. restriction/denial of basic life necessities such as food, water, shelter; detainment without charge; torture and abuse; slave labour.
Commentary on Political Ponerology: The Science of Evil, Psychopathy, and the Origins of Totalitarianism.
🗣 ‘I was most impressed with the combination of depth and breadth in this treatment of evil; depth in the search for and elucidation of the sources or origins of different kinds of evil and of the systems that generate and perpetuate evil, and breadth in the rich reach of ideas across many domains of knowledge. Together they combine to make fascinating, essential reading.’ — Philip Zimbardo, Professor Emeritus of Psychology, Stanford University, and author of The Lucifer Effect
🗣 ‘There are only a few books that discuss the origin and nature of totalitarian pathocracies. How does pathological behavior become dominant in a society? Łobaczewski, who lived under communism, provides invaluable psychological analysis of what M. Scott Peck termed ‘the people of the lie.’ Read this valuable work and you’ll better understand.’ — Arthur Versluis, author of The New Inquisitions and Conversations in Apocalyptic Times
🗣 ‘Pathocracy is one of those hidden concepts that, once uncovered, suddenly helps to make sense of the world. It explains much of the chaos and suffering which has filled human history, and which still sadly afflicts the world today. For this, we owe Lobaczewski and his book Political Ponerology a massive debt.’ — Steve Taylor, PhD, author of DisConnected and The Fall
🗣 ‘Andrew Lobaczewski’s [book] is crucial reading for understanding, possibly, political theory’s most important, but certainly its most neglected, explanation of modern governance dynamics: the shadowy role of clinical psychopaths in political life. If you want to get past the standard, bridled platitudes of conventional political science, to the real beating heart of human political life, this book is indispensable. Harrison Koehli’s new edition even further enriches the book’s contribution, fleshing out Lobaczewski’s key ideas and arguments with cross-references to his elaborations in other works, not yet available in English. Additionally, Koehli’s new footnotes constitute a catalogue of essential sources for anyone keen to follow the many avenues of exploration radiating out from Lobaczewski’s rich and provocative political analysis.” — Michael McConkey, author of The Managerial Class on Trial
🗣 ‘If you don’t know about criminal psychopathy as it relates to the political class, I wholeheartedly suggest you check out Political Ponerology by Andrew Lobaczewski.’ — James Corbett, The Corbett Report
🗣 ‘This is an extraordinary book. I cannot judge the biological aspects of the tyrannical few who rule political and economic elites in the modern era, but intuitively I am convinced that it is a pathological condition. The analysis and prognosis offered in this book rang true and valid again and again when I thought about my own work, both with regards to 1948 and … the history of the Israeli occupation.’ —Ilan Pappé, Professor of History, University of Exeter, and author of The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine.
🗣 ‘I strongly recommend this book for anyone who is managing human or financial risk in this environment or is looking to create healthy change. … The insights are deep and rich—they require focus and concentration. And the point comes home again and again: Ignota nulla curatio morbi—do not attempt to cure what you do not understand.’ — Catherine Austin Fitts, president of Solari, Inc., fmr. Asst. Secr. of Housing & Urban Development in the first Bush Administration
🗣 ‘The book you hold in your hand may be the most important book you will ever read; in fact, it will be. … This book is not just about macrosocial evil; it is also about everyday evil, because, in a very real sense, the two are inseparable. The long-term accumulation of everyday evil always and inevitably leads to grand systemic evil that destroys more innocent people than any other phenomenon on this planet.’ — Laura Knight-Jadczyk, founder of Sott.net, and author of From Paul to Mark: PaleoChristianity
🗣 ‘[Political Ponerology] impressed me in lots of ways and provoked me to think more about the nature and origin of what we call ‘evil.’ The strongest part of the book is the analysis of how psychopaths gain power and of the behaviour of such societies. … In all, a book I was pleased to have read and which I hope will continue to promote the study of how a certain kind of evil spreads. And especially in continuing to name as ‘evil’ things that many people are unable to see as such.” — Philip R. Davies, Professor Emeritus of Biblical Studies, University of Sheffield, and author of Whose Bible Is It Anyway?
🗣 ‘I think everyone should read this book because it provides the keys necessary for understanding events that we often can’t comprehend. The book describes the origins of ‘evil,’ its true nature, and illustrates how it spreads throughout society.” — Silvia Cattori, freelance journalist
🗣 ‘Political Ponerology is an invaluable work that every human being striving to become conscious, should read, not only for its expose of the pathology of the individuals currently in control of the United States government, but also the light it may shed on individuals closer to home, some of whom may be friends, fellow-activists, business or civic leaders. The book’s purpose is … to cultivate discernment and buttress our trust of our innate intuition in order to navigate the daunting manifestations of evil that surround us in the twenty-first century.’ — Carolyn Baker, psychotherapist, professor of history and psychology, and author of Sacred Demise
🗣 ‘[T]he subject of evil is long overdue to be studied in scientific terms rather than simply as an issue approached strictly in theological or moral terms (or, as is all too frequent currently, in political terms). … Ultimately, only social science, with a strong dose of human biological science, will be able to study and treat this human characteristic. … The author is … probably correct that a field of enquiry called ponerology will be dependent on many fields of inquiry of both the scientific and humanistic persuasions to become a successful antidote to this perennial bane of human existence.’ — Glenn R. Storey, Associate Professor of Classics and Anthropology, University of Iowa
Email: harrison@redpillpress.com
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This seems really cool. Unfortunately I am so backlogged in reading my mail that this did not get the attention it may have deserved.